1 Reply by Robert Lunte

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1. Doesnt matter, I pay for shipping.

2. It will be a "book"... Ill label it as a book... it is a book.

3. I believe the videos are mpgs and the quality is the highest SD.

4. The link is not automated. An email notification comes to my inbox and then I send you the download link and the password. If you do it this evening... I will be able to send you the links almost immediately.

5. 1.5 .... I can not tell you when 2.0 will be ready.. .its just a vision statement. But when it comes out, I will offer you the additional new content for a "existing customer" special deal so you can have all the new stuff. There is no reason to wait.  Get started now... this content will be part of 2.0 as well.

I look forward to working with you.

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2 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Yes, with my techniques and the "Four Pillars of Singing", you can. Im a specialist in helping singers learn how to bridge the Passagio and develop the head voice. I have developed some very unique techniques and some "discoveries" if you will... on how to properly make head tones sound full, "chesty" and convincing.

I too and a huge Steve Perry fan and am much influenced by him. I too, am a Classical baritone. Using my own techniques with myself... I sing "Wheel in the sky" and "lights" all the time for my students to demonstrate.

If you become my student, you will have in hand on of the best systems in the world for teaching how to do just that...

BRO.

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3 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Hi fellas... check out information here:

www.TheVocalistStudio.com

You can get some videos here www.youtube.com/roblunte

Here is what people are saying:

www.TheVocalistStudio.com/endorsements

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4 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Tim McCarthy wrote:
Robert Lunte wrote:

I for one am not much of a "hooty-fluter" in my art or my pedagogy. At TVS, we roll up our sleeves, put mic in hand and get to business melting the paint off the walls.

LOL!  So how do you really feel about the sls sound Robert!  LOL!

Sorry to keep dragging this thread out, but I just want to make one more point.  A few years ago I was in a progressive metal band.  We gigged a couple times a month and practiced a few times a week.  At that time I had good range, a pretty solid head tone, and decent resonance, but I hadn't learned the twang technique.  As a result, I was having a really difficult time getting my voice to cut through the band.  I sounded great on recordings where we had more control over the mix, but when you're in a small venue or practice space, and you have a loud drummer, then it becomes difficult to get enough amplification berfore feedback on the vox.  The result: I kept over singing and blowing out my voice, and I ended up getting replaced by someone who COULD cut through the mix with his voice.  I didn't know what I was missing vocally then, but I sure do now, and regret that I didn't have Roberts techniques at my disposal back then.  So here's a case where it's not just a matter of taste but necessity.

Cheers-

Tim

BTW Tim and fellow vc... Im not anti-SLS... this is more of a discussion about different laryngeal configurations, modes and the sounds they produce... and ultimately how those different qualities can be applied or are preferred by each individual.  Different techniques steer people in different directions.

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5 Reply by Robert Lunte

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I miss working with you Tim and really hope you can come in again soon... I have some new approaches to the bridging that I know would help... looking back at some of our training together.

Look forward to seeing you again...

Bro

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6 Reply by Robert Lunte

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robertmetal wrote:

Robert,
fair enough if you dont like the speech level or lowered larynx sound. i do. i still do think that its possible to to sing metal or rock with these postures, after all they are amplified genres so the mic and PA should be doing some of the work for you. i really do not agree that you have to have this squeezed, peirceing sound to have power, project, cut whatever it is that you want to call it and to have a authentic rock/metal sound.
if you listen to a singer like matt barlow from iced earth he often sings with a dumber toned sound and i think it sounds pretty cool.

as for extreme singing it depends on what style of extreme singing your talking about. the typical death metal sound uses a low larynx postion.


anyway this thread has gone way off course lol

Darrison has already sumed it up. we have are different views; if it works for you and you like it thats cool.

cheers

I just got done pointing out that its best to learn both configurations so you can calibrate how much contraction vs projected you want. It depends on the tune and the physiology of the singer.  I have some students that really need to torque the AES to get the sound they want, others don't have to as much... I'm not preaching "black or white"... I'm advocating that you open your mind to other possibilities and techniques that are clearly out there and benefitting people and then dare to incorporate it so you can do BOTH and be a more versatile and capable singer. 

In this forum we see a common theme and that is a lot of people are experimenting with several systems... that is a good approach. Incorporate the best of each and apply it to your specific needs and wants... At TVS, we roll up our sleeves, put mic in hand and get to business melting the paint off the walls... and yes, that does work for me and thousands of other singers I have worked with and met... the telling question is, what isn't working for those people?

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7 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Robertmetal,

I think Tim and Darrison summed it up and we have run this full circle before on vc forum. Let me cut to the chase, yet again.

Why would I not want to sing with a "balanced" posture, BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE SOUND/OVERTONES it produces, its too "hooty" and its not aggressive enough for what I want to do as an artist and what 90% of my students are asking for.  THATS THE PROBLEM, I dont know how many different ways people can make this point on this forum.

That doesnt make projected vocal sounds wrong. It just makes it wrong for me (most of the time, depends on the tune) and a lot of people that want more "cut" in their sound.

Can I sing with a lowered larynx?  I can. Im a professional, I can sing with a distorted twang or a flutey-hootin, balanced posture tone,.... I have also had some exposure to SLS, I have 4 years of Classical, lowered larynx exposure... I "get it"... I just dont dig it as an artist and its not what my voice pedagogy is about. 

However, I demonstrate both configurations and their unique sounds ever day in my training because a student has to be able to hear both configurations to learn how to twang...Once you learn how to twang you then can calibrate for how much you want. Its not all or nothing.  As a singer and a teacher, you want to be able to demonstrate both!

The point that any kind of muscularity is wrong is an error.  Isolated AES contractions are fine and lower torso anchoring are also perfectly fine. Both are commonly seen in extreme singing and understood to be ok by most vocal experts today.

In regards to our TVS videos, my students and I lead by example. We are not afraid to put our selves out there and show what we got. I dont ask my students to do anything Im not prepared to do myself and I think thats an important part of leadership and certainly one of the things that makes TVS special. I admire students and especially teachers that are/can actually sing and have the guts to put themselves out there to demonstrate. It adds "moxy" to their credibility in my opinion. Actions speak much louder.

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8 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Darrison N Bentheim-Murat wrote:

I think Robertmetal you are confusing raise Larnyx with people who insist on trying to move their entire voice box, throat into the head. Big difference. When you turn right or left in driving it's hand over hand- not turning your torso. Raise larnyx should not be confused with people who try to force their larnyx into the head cavity nor lowered larnyx confused with trying to push your throat down into your chest. It is a slight tilt , raising opening as opposed to lowered Larnyx which affixs the Larnyx into a very solid ,rigid open position. If you sing with a lowered larnyx you will need better breath support to cleanly clear the passaggio, and devoloped you will have a darker, fuller more evenly distributed sound. You can also learn to combine both.

Thank you Darrison, thats what needed to be pointed out... Im not talking about obsurd, red necked, veins popping out, chest pulling and all three constrictor muscles choking you... raising.  Do I really have to clarify this?  Robertmetal, its not the same thing at all... the work we do at TVS in this area includes a 100% isolation from the constrictors... ie: no stress, fatigue or physical issues what so ever... a feeling of complete freedom and openess, however you do feel the AES contraction. If you have never had anyone show you the technique, you might not fully understand.  I appreciate your argument and that the fact that at first consideration, it seems to be contrary to what you have been taught... I get that and in your case, I think its augmented by your current SLS exposure...but the bottom-line is, Im teaching this about 25 hours a week and practice it myself as an artist and there is nothing but huge success... and other teachers and schools are doing it as well. I even heard that Brett Manning (a formal SLS guy) is facilitating discussions on twang and "quaking" on his forum... A lot of people are coming around to having a new understanding of the issue.

Research?... check out "twang" at EVTS or if you run a search for twang or raised larynx you can pull some stuff up on Google... or just listen to some classic rockers; Ian Gillan, Robert Plant, Axel Rose... rockers have done it for years but until recently, there wasnt enough information about the physiology behind it... but to my point, that is changing.  And people, especially voice teachers need to catch up and update their beliefs.

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9 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Training and singing with "raised" and/or "tilted" laryngeal configurations does not create any stress to the voice if done properly and is really quite natural.

Now then, there is no "work" or overloading of the voice. There can be, and should be a contraction of the Aryepiglottic Sphincter (AES) or the "twanger" which results in a "lifted" sensation for the singer. But to my point, its perfectly safe, healthy and effective for getting some great results. Those who teach that raised larynx is a problem or leads to vocal fatigue and/or damage are in need of updating their lexicon of vocal understanding in my opinion... and I would invite everyone to not only read the latest research regarding it, but actually put it into practice on a regular basis so you can speak from experience.

I encourage teachers and students of singing to embrace it fully and stop being afraid of "raising your larynx" per se. it wont hurt you.  We do it every day at TVS and are getting consistent, amazing results for the following:

- It helps with bridging the Passagio for some people.
- It is the MOST important technique for getting full voice "connectivity" in the head voice. (The Falsetto killer).
- It does give most singers what they are looking for, a strong, powerful sound throughout the range of the voice

Let me be clear, any notions that raised laryngeal configurations are "stressful" or "overloas" the voice is patently not evident.

Now, back to Steven's original question. To get darker tones, vowel modification is something you can do that will help a lot. But lets look at a bigger picture here, you have to build the strength and coordination of your voice before it will sound robust and before you can have the muscle memory to effectively input vowel modification, twang, vibrato or any technique... there is no quick fix.  You have to have more then one lesson to get results. Voice training is an athletic endeavor and you have to practice and train to really make a difference.

About 90 days of serious commitment in my studio and practicing outside of your sessions is what it takes for most people to have powerful results.. and Ill pretty much guarantee you that.

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10 Reply by Robert Lunte

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"PK" worrying about a "mixed voice" is going to mix you up... it is not where your focus is right now, we have more serious issues to address first in regards to your fatigue problems that you came into the studio with... long before we begin to discuss the "lore" and what I believe to be, confusing ideas that are propagated about "mixed voice".

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11 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Steven, there is no magic bullet or any forum read that is going to get you there... the fact of the matter is, you need to train and it really helps to have access to a voice teacher that "gets it" and knows how to train head voice... the fact that you have the opportunity to train with me is a huge advantage to meeting your objectives.

The answer to your question is to just stick with your private schedule with me in Seattle and we'll get you there (provided that you practice) in probably about 90 days.  You already have at your disposal what you need and more then what most people have access to.

Although I am building a "weekend intensive" program for people to fly into Seattle for an 8 hour training over two days or two weekends at our TVS studio... more details to come on that.

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12 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Robertmetal,

High, strong adducted head tones is what we do at TVS. The voice teacher that taught Geoff Tate was a man named Maestro David Kyle, Im carrying on his technique & legacy. Thus, I had the same voice teacher as Geoff Tate... and Layne Staley, Ann Wilson, Chris Cornell and others...just want to insure we're on the same page in terms of the experience we have at TVS for head voice development.

When James Kelley says he puts a little "squeeze" into his voice on that sample, it is not to induce vocal adduction. He is already adducted, if he wasnt getting fold closure, the entire vocal sample would have sounded "falsettoey"... the squeeze is a laryngeal contraction to get a more aggressive attack on the color/overtone, not to get fold closure that we can hear is already there.

If its Brett's student or my student, the point is that for most extreme singers, simply achieving fold closure is an important step, but its not enough. To get the sound you really want, and I'm not talking about distortion, there has to be more gymnastics... a "squeeze" or a little "torque" gets you to the desired effect.

Hope this helps... keep studying and learning as much as you can.

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13 Reply by Robert Lunte

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I agree, the EV 767a V.O.B. ... is the secret sauce... still my preferred hand held, dynamic, wireline mic.

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14 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Here is proof in the pudding.  This is my student who studied at TVS, singing "take hold of the flame". Please send me your video of Enriquez or someone else singing this tune. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzfVBXnWCk

SLS is really good for getting the voice in "balance", for example, people that have a lot of constriction and chest pulling problems, they could benefit from this... Also for singers that are not reaching for "extreme singing" sounds.... but "balanced" laryngeal doctrines do not result in sounds that are applicable to more extreme singing genre's because the very fact that your suppose to "balance" the larynx, prevents you from being able to set up the larynx in configurations required to make more extreme singing sounds.

I watched the Brett Manning video...  James Kelly says in the video at 3:36, "there is a little more squeeze there..." Humm.... ? What is that "squeeze" he is talking about?  Well, you decide for yourself...

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15 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Miss PK,

Give me a call... I TEACH BEGINNERS...  most of my students were beginners at one time.  Dont let my advanced students concern you, let them inspire you. 

I actually have 11:00 available in my studio downtown this Saturday... give me a call. 425.444.5053 or robert@thevocaliststudio.com

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16 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Hi Daniel, I dont have anyone in the UK, but I do have a teacher in the South of France... probably the best thing you can do is purchase a copy of my DVD training system and give serious consideration to coming to Seattle for a weekend... I provide a 6-8 lesson weekend intensive for people that live outside of Seattle, its a big success... there is a very affordable Hostel right across the street from my studio that only charges $35/night and offers free dinner, breakfast and internet... you can do the whole thing for about $1000...  feel free to send me an email... Id love to work with you.

Thanks Mark for your help.

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17 Reply by Robert Lunte

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I believe each of these systems are great. 

The thing to remember is that some singers can not get the full benefit without following up or reinforcing the system with private lessons.  Im confident that if you came to my studio for 4-6 private lessons in Seattle, ( I offer a "weekend intensive" training program that is very popular), that I can help you incredibly. Just having the training systems are probably not enough for you, you need a private coach.

In defense of The Four Pillars of Singing, I offer you a list of endless endorsements from people that have used and benefited from TVS. Dont be afraid to reach out to me, Id be happy to try to help you and Im sure my colleagues from these other training systems would echo my sentiments.

www.thevocaliststudio.com/endorsements

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18 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Thanks Stew... Ive been really busy lately and have not been on the forum much... the teaching has been demanding.

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19 Reply by Robert Lunte

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N/D767 and 767a are the same thing... if you want more clarity, try adding to your EVs... the OM5 or the A-T 6100a, SHURE Beta 58a...

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20 Reply by Robert Lunte

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That very nice...  Thanks Mark... I hope we can work together more... wish we could do some one on ones... btw... there will be another full hour TV interview here www.streamshot.com , click on videos.  You can watch me, Jason Lucas, Scott Nelson & Jan Whalstrom discuss TVS training and there are three video performances we filmed in my studio... including yours truly performing "Gethsemane" from Jesus Christ Superstar... you just click on the video and it launches a player... enjoy!  And thanks again for the nice endorsement...

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21 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Mark... why dont you use the "Pillars" system you purchased? I hear that your still "seeking" answers in your posting, yet you have a very complete and effective training system with DVD tutorials at your feet.  Regardless if its my system or Jaime's or whom ever... you need to train. Get at it... are you working through the excercises in "Pillars"?

BTW, Travis North is not classically trained, he is TVS trained.  And although I have four years of Classical experience with a University, I dont consider it to be where I recieved my "training"... I was "COACHED" for four years in Classical... that means I can sing with a lowered larynx and interpret a German art song, basically... outside of that, my training is working every week on the Pillars workouts and growing and learning every day with my students and my own vocal journey. Its logging time on a microphone.

I love your passion and sense of urgency... but dont let it turn into analysis paralysis... get working on "Pillars".  Start with excercise 1 & 2 and begin working through it. 

Im concerned with your fixation on "Classical" training.  Classical "training" is really, Classical "coaching" for a particular genre' of music.  The physiology you seek for bridging and head voice development are likely not going to present themselves with Classical coaching.

Thats my post given with your best interest at hand.  Feel free to call me or send me files of your progress... what ever you do, keep your passion, it will lead you some where... I just want to help to make sure it leads you to where you want to go.

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22 Reply by Robert Lunte

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no, just coincidence... but I did read.  "The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah (1977), ISBN 0-385-28501-9".  BTW, I took care of this guy this morning... he was totally throaty, from the "bottom up"... I showed him how to thin it out, get in the resonators, stop pushing... and we'll check in about 2-3 weeks.

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23 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Contact me so I can listen and help you... thats the first thing you should do.  My skype ID is "rjlseagull".  Its obvious your not doing it right: constrictors are probably activating, your not bridging to your head resonance, could be some support/respiration issues there as well, in addition to your formant may not be accomodating.  You need some help, no big deal... thats precisely why we are here.

Until I hear from you and work with you, I want you to stop... I wont charge you for a quick consultation.

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24 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Id be happy to help you with internet lessons if you like, give me a call.

James L.  Im also available to discuss with you the ins & outs of internet lessons to help you get set up , there are a few lessons from experience I could share with you to save you some time and embarrasing hassles... Jaime is also doing it.

www.thevocaliststudio.com/internetlessons

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25 Reply by Robert Lunte

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No & Yes.

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26 Reply by Robert Lunte

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KB wrote:

Robert Lunte, that is terrible! Yeah, I definately will stay away from SLS. I want a powerful metal Eric Adams voice! SLS won't get me there. And to Jaime: You've sold me.

Huh? whats terrible?  LOL

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27 Reply by Robert Lunte

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George, thats correct.  I have mentioned before on this forum... I have discovered that different singers need different levels of "twang"... some people need a lot for connection in the head voice, others need a little and some, like Jan... dont need any.  I neglected to point out in my previous post that with Jan, we DONT focus on twanging... I now see it may have sounded like that.  Jan has a sound in his head tones that needs a more projected posture, like what your referring to.

Good observation.

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28 Reply by Robert Lunte

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nice to see you on here Jan.. .and great question... would like to hear what others have to say... not all, but some students, particularly when singing some twang... sound a bit too shrill... a rare few.  For Jan, we have been working on some vowel modification and reshaping the formant around the lips and its working well...  any thoughts from others out there?

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Jan: why dont you paste in the link to your recent "Highway Star" video?  I think the vc gang would love to see it.

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29 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Nice post... I think that getting the 767 on a properly amplified system allowed the mic to wake up for you... glad you like it.

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30 Reply by Robert Lunte

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Wow, you know what... they say you have scaring or swelling?  thats the first thing we need to address... you should follow the advise of your doctor... REST.

do you have any links of you singing so we can hear what is causing this?

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