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I was trying to properly word a question about the inner workings of the VLT, and how it worked in requards to how it handled Mono\Stereo issues. And now I don't have to!

Thanx

Biff

Is there a way to get duel, separate, stereo outputs?

(ie. with a tip. ring, sleeve stereo cable) OR  should we forget about having dual, lush, stereo, panning and other types of stereo effects, and, a stereo effected guitar at the same time?

And/or, more importantly to me, and many others I'm sure, using the VLT in the track mode with a DAW (Logic) via USB?

Can we have a lush stereo chorus on the guitar and stereo Pingponging type effects and other types of stereo effects on the vocals and at the same time?

Biff

Oh yea, ya can do all that stuff, but, with the VLT, used as an insert in the channel insert slot, using an I/O insert, there's NO noticeable latency.
I think once a correct send/rtrn method has been figured out, there will be very little latency with a buss set up, if how little latency there is when it's used as an insert is any indication.
I wanted to get it to a point where I can make music with it in a basic way and workup an optimal VLT set up as I go.
I will keep you all up to date with my failures and successes.

Riff

I had a bug girrr with it for days.

your welcome (what if I was a girl) Matt

Gettin there.

Aggregate interfaces:

Fire box has 6 inputs = 1-6, 8 outputs = 1-8. VLT has 2 inputs = 7-8, 2 outputs = 9-10. Firebox is first in the chain, with the clock button checked and the VLT is second with the re-sample button checked. So a total aggregate of 8 ins and 10 outs. Seems to work.

In logic, in my vocal track, I usually have 2 snd/rtrns set up.(#1 Verb and #2 Delay)
I added a 3rd Buss and added a stereo I/O insert with the input set to 7-8(VLT IN) and the output set to 9-10(VLT OUT) to the insert in the Aux/buss.

Now the problem seems to be that I can hear everything, but, with an approx 70ms-110ms latency, slap back.

                                     Horrid!!!     

I can't really tell if it's in stereo, but, one thing at a time.

So the aggregate works after a fashion or maybe it works fine.

I'm wondering if the latency is due to the Logic's I/O plugin?
If your using the USB only as the I/O, I would think that the I/O plugin should not be needed. I'm guessing.

Any thoughts Craig or any Logic user?

RBiff

If one goes the analog, sans USB, send/return route, with the VLT, since the only "IN" is a female XLR input for vocals, wouldn't one need a 1/4" (Bal or Un?) to a male XLR cable?, if one's Firebox has only 1/4" line outs and the VLT only XLR (or USB) Ins? This would be for Vocals only and it would be nice if the effects were in stereo.

So one would send a dry vocal out from logic, and send it out of 1 of the 4 available TRS line outs, from the Firebox via a TRS 1/4" to male XLR cable, to the VLT's XLR input and then take the stereo outputs of the VLT and hook them into the inputs of the Firebox?-----Right?

To process the guitar, I assume, would be about the same, only using all 1/4" cable.(TRS or unbalanced 1/4"?)

I'm pretty sure there are other ways. The more the better.

Oh- Just sort of throwing this out there but would soundflower or other similar apps. be useful here?

Right! One can't use the VLT, only, for I/O, and to act as a send/return @ the same time!

One needs an other interface (FireBox) device to act as monitor out to the physical monitors, because one cannot use the VLT analog Outputs for monitoring and have the USB, in Insert mode, at the same time I think. In USB Insert mode, do the analog stereo outs, still work? OR Are they switched off because the USB ties up the I/O's?

I'm going to try and use just the VLT as an interface and take both the Firebox and the aggregated out of the equation, until,
I get the VLT humming in the Stereo, Track and Insert modes.

Thanx again

Riff

I't seems that the Logic Pro/VoiceLive products, USB I/O send\return, "Secret Holly Grail" is a reoccurring theme in the forum. And, since no one in Victoria (Beautiful city) seems to have had any experience with these new fangled Imac things or this Logic pro thingy, I must look to finding an all seeing android shaman.

If only the secret hand shake could be revealed on oh say The History Channel.

Putting my head back into the digital streeem---Searching........

I'd swear over my IVL Pitchrider 7000 from Heinl Electronics that I just can't get

this.

I've read the VL2 manual and watched the vids for the VLT, VL2 and VL rack. I will

read the VLR manual and see if that helps.

Mean while, if any one could help us with a step by step, for dummies, tutorial

and/or video that would help me and other upcoming TC Helicon/Logic users that would

be greatly appreciated.

Thank yea

Riff

mine did a countdown from 16-0 @ about 1 second intervals.??????????

Biff