Shortcut Tempo Delay issue (Page 1 of 2)

Hi Craig
Thanks for your quick answer. I use Phantom on due to my mic an a just updated to the latest firmware the other day. I also tried no reinstall firmware 1.4.0. Same issue there. Now, as I tried do setup the delay I got another problem too. I changed the time from 263ms to 800ms and stored it. Everything fine. But when I change to another Preset and go back to this one it's back to its original setting of 263ms. Either I am doing something completely wrong or somethings wrong with the system. I assume it's me, since I haven't been working on it for a while. But I just don't know what it is. Well, I will try again this weekend. Time sometimes solves problems:-) But maybe you know what its all about. But as I said, due to my mic I have to set the phantom on on.

Hya again
Ok, I tried the whole thing with a dynamic mic - turning off the phantom and looky here. Everything just works fine!!! At band practice tonight I also had the feeling of the effects working more efficient, but I have to check on that. Still, it's a kind of weird that it doesn't work properly with a phantom mic since the option is given. Maybe TC should work on that.
Now I consider buying a new mic and my favorite is the Shure Beta SM58 A. But I first want to find a dealer around who has the TC MP-75 and the SM58 - so I could compare them.

Hey guys,

The 300 bpm thing was a bug in older firmware but it's been fixed. The key is to make sure that any mic-control options are turned off when you're using a mic that requires phantom power.

Cheers,
Craig

Hi everyone! I'm having the same concern with the shortcut function being activated on its own on random situations, leading to a Tap Tempo Delay of 300 bpm. I'm using Firmware 1.4.02 Build 127.
The one thing i'd like to add to all of this, is that I use a Shure Beta 58A for my vocals, and the funny thing is, that if I switch to a SM58 instead of my Beta the Voicelive works just fine, no "misleading signal" confuses the shortcut function. I don't know if this adds any light to the topic, but I thought it was worth mentioning especially because the BETA 58 and the SM58 are both dynamic mics, but they appear to behave differently on this scenario. I'd really appreciate any help!

Hi guys,

There's one easy one in there: Swiss, the reason the FX needs you to sing very loud is that there's a gate on most of the effects that use any kind of megaphone type effect. You can reduce the threshold of the gate on the edit page.

Let me look further into the Tap-Tempo thing and see what I can come up with.

Cheers,
Craig

Hi Craig, any progress on this?

br
Oyvind

Hi Craig, thanks for quick reply.

I went back to use the latest FW, and "hold delay" for tap tempo.

When I rolled back to FW 1.2.1 (91), my condenser (Shure KSM9) would suddenly "go quiet",
and I had to restart the VL2 to get sound on it again.
(Seemed like it happened when I was pushing it over some time, but I'm sure it didn't peak on either the VL2 or the mixer.)

This happened three times on my last gig, and the third time the KSM9 wouldn't work even after VL2 restart.
I plugged in my Beta 87A, and I had sound again.
Next day I plugged the KSM9 back in, and there was sound ...!!??

My KSM9 is only a few weeks old, and I was(am) afraid it's broken ... But the sudden quiet and restarting issue, and the fact that it's working now, has made me think that it maybe has something to do with the phantom power (voltage peak(s) ..or?)
I did try different cables, but the problem continued.

Back on the latest FW, I haven't had the chance to push it over time, but I'm kind of worried it'll happen again on my next gigs this weekend...

Anyone else had the same experience?

Done some singing now, and there it happened again ...kind of a high pitch click in the speakers, and mic (KMS9) went dead.
Restarted VL2, and mic is back....
I'm running the latest firmware now.

I have midi hooked up from my piano, filtering pc and sysex, cc change off on the VL2 ...so it should only receive notes...

I've got two VL2's (...always one in backup), and the one I tested today isn't the one I used on my last gig ...where the same thing happened more than once... (..with FW 1.2.1)

This has happened with both Beta 87A and KSM9, so it's not KSM9 related ...other than maybe condenser/ phantom related.

Oyvind

Last edited by studio25 (2011-12-14 12:57:21)

I run it from a power bar ...but different power bar today, than on my last gig...and yes, I also use to run piano and drum machine on the same power bar as the VL2.

I'll buy a new power bar, and two new mic cables tomorrow ...just to be 100% sure it's not cable/ power bar related.
I'll also try to run the VL2 on a single power extension (..is that the name in english??), to make sure it's nothing to do with the piano or drum machine.

Maybe I should get a new VL2 power adaptor too...where's the best place to order them? (Don't think they have them in stock in Norway...)

Thanks Craig!

Oyvind

One other thing, when the mic goes quiet, can you go into setup and turn Phantom off, then on again to make the mic come back to life or do you have to restart the unit?

I can't seem to replicate the issue because I don't know what is it that makes it go all wacko... What I am though able to tell you is that it's more likely to happen when using it in loud volume environments... For instance... If I practice with the Voicelive at home, the shortcut button is rarely "activated on its own", but when I go into my band's rehearsal room, where my mic is not only receiving my voice and some acoustic guitar distant sounds, but full drums and cymbals, low end bass amplification and electric guitar's overdrives then, when it does "activates on its own" it does for good, like, its unstoppable up to 300bpm's... cannot control it if I change the preset it does so on the new preset, and so on unless I disconnect the mic, of course. But if I connect it again, it starts again.

My setup consists of: Shure Beta58a, Voicelive 2, and an acoustic guitar plugged to the guitar in.

Why, O, Why... Is this happening....

As I said before... If I use a SM58 instead it works just fine... But I want to use my beta mic...

Craig, First of all, Thank you for your time answering my issue. I had found what you say to be true, but what bugs me is that my microphone is not a condenser mic... My mic is a Shure Beta58a, and I have phantom power turned off, because this as I'm sure you already know, is a dynamic mic, hence not a phantom powered mic. But I've been able to replicate the issue exactly as you said, with loud singing, and loud environmental sound reception.

How can this be happening?

For the time being I will be applying the "non-elegant fix", which I had already found to be useful, for the time being.

Thanks in advance,

Zed.-

I bought my VL2 a year ago and so far so good.but when i updated my unit to 1.4.02 firmware I encounter a lot of problem from bpm to reverb if I sing loud the reverb lost the bpm will up to 300.So It is possible that I can down grade it to 1.3 fimware.My previous Firmware 1.1.Do I need to used another version of VoiceSupport to do this downgrade?

Thanks

Bryan

Hiya pshybear,

Now that's really weird. The fact that it will do it on one and not the other is surprising. I'd assume they're both running the same firmware etc.? Both VL2 and not 1 Extreme + 1 Regular?

Cheers,
Craig

PS Bryanmag I deleted your post in the other thread, since it was the same. Please only post in one thread if it's the same comment/topic. Thanks!