Topic: AUX in + Recording?

Hi!

I have this set-up:

-PC with audio software (right now FL Studio + Reason)
-Output to AUX IN on VLT

So far so good, for practicing, but when I'd like to record the vocals, I have to unplug the AUX IN cable, else it records that, too. Is there no way to separate the vocals from the AUX IN :-/?

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated :>.

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi

If you go into setup of VLT and set the USB to TRACK, you will record the dry signal from the microphone on one channel and dry guitar on the other channel.

Page # 25 of the manual will give you the instructions and other scenarios for recording.

Manual is Here :-
http://www.tc-helicon.com/download/manu … NGv1-2.pdf

Hope that helps you out

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 05:33:40)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

Thanks for swift reply smile!

I'm not using the USB though. Just AUX IN, and the normal Stereo outputs...

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi try turning aux vol to off just tap set up button and then tap left scroll arrow twice, then scroll to off. every time you turn the unit off and on it resets aux vol  to -20 so you need to do this every time ( until future update ).

Re: AUX in + Recording?

I still want to *hear* the AUX IN though :-).

It also controls the VLT harmonies. So if it's Off, I have no harmony control :-(.

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi

The best way would be to use the VLT usb cable and use it as in input device for your daw, so that you can record the seperate tracks. The AUx has no effect to the output when it is set to TRACK.

As the purpose of the outputs is for the mix for your P.A.

If you turn the AUX OFF, you still have control of harmonies, what you are adjusted is the amount of Aux signal that is being applied to the mix.

When I use mine in live situation it is via mixer, ie the audio from laptop is sent to both the mixer and the VLT, vlt AUx is set to OFF, i find this is better as the Vocal and the AUdio can be eq'd and balanced seperately. Also by plugging headset into mixer you hear your entire mix.

If you can give a bit more info as to the hardware you have, we should be able to give you specific advice, ie . What audio interface do you have?, do you have a mixer? etc.

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 06:55:19)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

Thanks a lot for reply :-D.


...but if I turn AUX OFF, I can no longer hear it. I'd like to hear it but still have it separated when recording to the DAW...


Here are the details:

-PC with FL Studio + Reason
--Focusrite Saffire soundcard (via Firewire)
---One cable from Saffire to VLT AUX IN
---Two 1/4" cables from the VLT Stereo outs to the Saffire

No mixer...

So can USB can be used instead of the Stereo outs..?
Can VLT via USB really be used in parallel with the Saffire..?

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi

OK, assuming you have something like the pro 14, as that is the manual that i am reading now, you should be able to

Set the Aux to OFF, so that the inputs into the saffire pro 14 is vocal with effects applied only.

Then using the Mix COntrol Software for the saffire configure that so that you hear the outputs from the pro 14 and the inputs from the vlt. obviously your headphones will have to plugged into the saffire pro 14.

You should be able to use both devices at the same time, i would still recommend going the usb route so that you get a dry vocal recording, this can then be tweeked, cleaned and appropriate effects applied, once it is in your DAW.
As if you record the outputs from vlt, it has the applied effects, and you will not be able to remove these after.

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 08:33:07)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

shoxproductions wrote:

You should be able to use both devices at the same time, i would still recommend going the usb route so that you get a dry vocal recording, this can then be tweeked, cleaned and appropriate effects applied, once it is in your DAW.
As if you record the outputs from vlt, it has the applied effects, and you will not be able to remove these after.


Thanks a lot for response!

Ah, I see, so you mean record dry and then apply the VLT effects later..? Is that even possible smile? How would the set-up look, including the Saffire smile?

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi

Yes you could that.

SET VLT USB TO TRACK
So that you can record the dry vocal, you would then clean that recording up, ie, remove any unwanted parts, de-ess, basic vocal eq, light compress, until you get a nice clean vocal, do not add any effects like delay, chorus, reverb etc. you want clean vocal, this is the most important part, as any artifacts that are present at this stage will be applied to any effects either vst or external fx units, so take your time here, it is best to A/B recording against what you are doing to, you are after basically to improve tone if need be, and to get the vocal even through out the track.

Once you are happy, it is best to either bounce the corrected vocal track to another track, or even mixdown the vocal track, and re-import it back in on another track.

NOW

SET  VLT USB TO INSERT
You can now route your modified vocal track to the VLT to be processed as an external effect. Setup is dependent on your software Check Page 25 of the manual I listed above.

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 10:20:04)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

Thanks! I'll give it a go. I just can't see how FL Studio will accept two external devices, one via FW the other via USB...

Guess the response to that will be to swap DAW, but I find FL charming :-).

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Hi

Sorry but not a user of fl studio,

But in general terms you would go into settings then audio, and select the devices you want to use for recording, normaly you can select more than one hardware device.

Then when you have the track armed for recording, you should be able to select where the audio is coming from.

Best wait for a FL Studio guru, or search on google for 'fl studio audio setup'

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 10:36:52)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

ASIO allows for only one hardware device at a time- doesn't matter what software you are using. WDM allows multiple devices.

You can use the free wrapper ASIO4ALL to get around that limitation...

Re: AUX in + Recording?

But isn't ASIO4ALL also ASIO, so only allows one device smile?

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Forgot to mention asio4all, thanks zymos

ASIO4ALL is asio but it should 'wrap' your devices into one 'asio' device that is seen by your application, hense allowing you to gain access to all the input and output devices on your computer, you should find that it wraps your onboard audio as well.

ASIO4ALL causes no audio degradation,  it simply makes the various inputs and outputs appear as extra options inside your application.

Last edited by shoxproductions (2012-01-13 13:00:31)

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Re: AUX in + Recording?

As a plus, it is frequently better (as in more stable at lower latencies) than native drivers. It also usually makes your onboard audio usable in realtime with low latency.

I'd recommend anyone doing digital audio on PC check it out- it's free and if you don't notice an improvement, you can always just select your native drivers instead.

Re: AUX in + Recording?

Thanx for all your replies!!

I got so fed up with the VLT interface, that today I swapped it for an old VoiceLive 1.

I've just realized I'm not made for touch-screens. Most people are though wink.