Topic: Is there a Comperative Review?..TC Helicon VoiceLive Play VS Boss VE20
I am considering buying VoiceLive Play (the blue one), and I am having trouble choosing between this unit and boss ve-20.
I have googled, and I have read dozens of forums were the arguement Tc Hel. VS Boss arises, but unfortunatelly almost everybody compares boss ve20 with tc helicon voice live 2 .
In my opinion VL2 is a completely diffrent category of an effect/pedalboard. This is absolutely clear when it comes to the price (it costs at least twice as much), and then VL2 is the same category as digitech's vocalist live series, which is pedalboards /harmonisers for singers/guitarists.
Now I know that even if you are "simply" singing, you might get to convince your guitarist to pass his guitar through your pedal, in order to give you the right harmonies and all, but the main reason for buing a VOCAL processor, is NOT the harmoniser. Harmonizer is just ONE effect out of dozens that there are out there. (I mean just check out boss guitar pedals.... most of them do NOT harmonize).
I know that usually vocalists make good use of 3 effects, reverb,delay and harmonize... and all of them in moderation. Well there is auto-tune now after the Cher thing, but its a pop thing, and a bad taste as well to my humble opinion, and clearly I am not a pop singer.
But I am interested in other more dramatical and spacey effects, that usually fo not get picked by vocalists.
Effects that would pretty much "devocalise" your voice.
So anyway, looking in VOCAL PROCESSORS ALONE, I think the market has 3 options. Obviously TC Helicon's VL Play, Boss VE 20 (and 5 but thats the same thing in a diffrent box) and Digitech vocal 300 (which HAS an expression pedal, but doesnt have a looper which is a major turn-off for me. And anyway I never got to find a descent demo-promo video for this product, so I guess its own company does not believe in it).
So back to the basic Q.... When it comes to VLPlay and VE20 which have similar prices, and -I think- similar features, is there a serious comperative study?
Have you used both of them? I know that in US (you lucky people) you get to RENT pedals for a few days and check em out. Would love to have that service over here as well, but UNFORTUNATELY even the official dealers of the manufacturers DO NOT have a proper showroom where they actually display all the equipment they are selling.
(TC Helicon people, do you copy that? I live in Athens-Greece, and when I went -yesterday- to your official dealer, ALL the TC pedals where shown to me IN THEIR FREAKING BOXES. I thought, if I wanna see a PICTURE of the product, I ve got internet man! I insisted on listening to the sound of "Play" and they opened carefully-ceremonially a box of a new PLAY GTX (as they had run out of Play alltogether), after being somewhat annoyed about me seriously insisting on testing it, which of course they intend to sell to some poor kid, after having used it as a demo product. Unfortunately dealers/importers of musical stuff in this country, do RETAIL sales as well, which is why we musicians never get proper services/prices at ALL. Thank God for online music store Thomann.de, he made them lower their INSANE prices a couple of years ago, as we were all buying online from Germany!)
Anyway, if only you TC Hel. people werent so marketing oriented, uploading 10 official videos and tutorials for your products, I wouldn't even think about buying one of your products (based on the behaviour of your official seller). You do a great job promoting your stuff, well done.
So to close this long topic, has anybody used both the pedals? Has anyone actually LOOPED effectively and efficiently with live play?
What about expression pedal? Why TC doesnt incorporate expression pedals on its stuff? This seems way too odd to me... Any ideas wellcome!
Thank you all!